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Let's play NationStates

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Because we're debating what political system is "right", it might be fun to play this little nation simulation game for a while, and see how our opinions work out in prac... er... someones theory. I've played it before a few years ago, it hardly takes any time, and it's free and funny. So let's play Smiling !

After creating your own nation, please move it to the region named "Libervisia". The region password is "www.libervis.net", without the quotes.

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Well I did this, created a

Well I did this, created a state (Commonwealth of Memeversial), but I can't figure out how to move to that region. Here is it: http://www.nationstates.net/memeverse

However, we can't prove or test a thing with this. It's slanted from the beginning. The poll is way too simplistic. As enough of an example, if you vote that you disagree the country has nothing without democracy it automatically assumes people have only few political freedoms, which in the system I wished to create is totally untrue. Besides, when have ever such survey forms been specific enough for a geek with mind of his own? Smiling

A game is a suboptimal and unrealistic simulation.

EDIT: OK, figured out how to move and moved to Libervisia. Smiling

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Of course with the kind of

Of course with the kind of questions it asks (remember to address the new issues every few days!) subtlety is out of the question. Still, you do get a good idea of what would happen if one person or another is in charge of a country.
OTOH you are right that when you have very special plans, the simulation won't work properly. The first time I played, I wanted to create an advanced social society with an anti-technology agenda. What I got was a 3d world country with insane taxes but stunning nature. Hm, in hindsight that does make sense after all.

By the way, we might after a while be able to use this as promotion for libervis. There must be lots of potentially interested people playing that game.

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tbuitenh wrote: Still, you
tbuitenh wrote:

Still, you do get a good idea of what would happen if one person or another is in charge of a country.

So approximate of an idea that you might as well call it an educated guess. Smiling

It seems to have provisioned for only a certain set of possibilities and their combinations. And it doesn't seem like a non-democratic rights libertarianism with anarcho-capitalist free market fits anywhere close to these. I suppose, then, it would work as a simulation to those who wish to create systems which were provisioned for and therefore backed by research data for the game. For others there's simply no way of telling anything really substantial.

Say I refuse to enter United Nations. Will that be treated as a positive thing or will my nation suddenly turn out to be this isolationist separatist police state that it already states it is (Libertarian Police State.. sigh). It can't be more wrong.

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By the way, we might after a while be able to use this as promotion for libervis. There must be lots of potentially interested people playing that game.

Well, it could be a nice way to encourage people to think of these topics, but due to limited amount of creativity it allows in terms of what political system it provisions for, I doubt it would be able to send an unbiased report on what kind of political climate prevails on Libervis.com.

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Ok, the game is certainly

Ok, the game is certainly very interesting in its own right and could yield some interesting topics to ponder when viewed within the confines of its limitations. Smiling

Besides, I shouldn't complain, looks like your state is doing even worse: http://www.nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?region=libervisia Laughing out loud

Unless you actually like it that way (as in spiritual wealth being far more important in the Free Priesthood than material wealth). Eye

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My nation isn't doing very

My nation isn't doing very well yet, mostly because I haven't had a chance to cut the insane taxes with which the game made me start.

Not joining the UN doesn't do any harm. If you join the UN, you are bound by their policies, which in some situations may be harmful I guess.

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What's this, I reject

What's this, I reject mandatory organ donation and outlaw payment for organ donation, and that makes my taxes go up by 2%? Odd game.

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A snapshot of a nice

A snapshot of a nice country, before it is going to be messed up by unintended consequences of my choices as will no doubt happen:

Quote:

The Nomadic Peoples of The Free Priesthood
"We might be insane, but we like you anyway."

UN Category: Democratic Socialists
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Weak
Political Freedoms: Excellent
Location: Libervisia

Regional Influence: Dominator
The Free Priesthood is a UN Member

The Nomadic Peoples of The Free Priesthood is a large, devout nation, notable for its devotion to social welfare. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 20 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt.

The government -- a sprawling, bureaucracy-choked, socially-minded morass -- concentrates mainly on Social Welfare, although Education and Religion & Spirituality are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 41%, but much higher for the wealthy. A small but healthy private sector is led by the Cheese Exports, Door-to-door Insurance Sales, and Beef-Based Agriculture industries.

Citizens are enjoying a recent large cut in taxes, the government's religious works are headed by a New Age guru, the latest Harry Potter book is a bestseller, and political parties are banned from advertising and receiving private donations. Crime is totally unknown. The Free Priesthood's national animal is the drunk, which is also the nation's favorite main course, and its currency is the contribution.

The Free Priesthood is ranked 2nd in the region and 11,991st in the world for Most Liberal Nations.

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