New Star Trek Movie

story on Yahoo

This is good news. It confirms rumors that have been flying around ever since Enterprise got pulled off that there will be an 11th movie. I also never watched Nemesis so I can't tell how good or bad it was. The thing is that the fact it didn't earn Paramount so many bucks tells nothing to me. We are living in a time where not so many people appreciate the values that Star Trek often presents which kind of tends to put Star Trek in the realm of geeks and hardcore fans (though I don't actually think that is entirely true).

That said, it can very well be that Nemesis was a good movie, just as I believe Star Trek: Enterprise was a good series, but people lost interest in the whole ideal. Another big thing to the declined success is the totally misrepresented ratings. I mean, they didn't count all time slots in the ratings. From what I heard they didn't count reruns when alot of people watched. So it's all a pretty big mess. Star Trek has enough of the potential left to last another century, but people have just gotten more dumb and non-caring about it. They'd rather watch a next "Scream" clone with alot of blood instead of something that actually makes their brains "think" for once.

Good point. It will be interesting. It is still possible though that this is not a final scenario for the film. It could still change.

It is possible that they make it believable even without the actual James T. Kirk actor. They might be covering his childhood so the actor can be some child, and introduce some other never seen characters to make a plot around that, making the whole thing interesting. We'll see, and I'm looking forward to it.

Thanks for posting it here.

That's true, I'd say, but I'm not sure the popularity of TV and cinema is dropping rapidly though. It may be dropping, but only slowly. TV is still kind of engrained and people are used to it. Also some cinemas offer a full range experience which some people deem valuable enough to go and watch. In Croatia we have quite a few cinemas in Zagreb. I've recently watched King Kong with my father in Cinestar cinema and it was quite an experience. They still have the kind of surround system not everyone can afford at home, and a nice overall service. So it's still kind of holding.

Also, at least cinema isn't something I have much against. Just as on TV, they don't hand you a DVD and then say you can't share it. They just show it to you. It's not like anyones freedom can get hurt that way. The problem comes when they sell you a DVD and then you can't excercise your basic ethical rights with it.

Good point, but that shouldn't mean Star Trek essentially has to go away just because not so many people watch it on TV, just as any culture work doesn't have to die just because TV is dieing. It can still be done and distributed over the net and on DVD, provided that hopefully it will be free to share and derivate from (where the whole ethics problem starts to kick in).

If corporations like Paramount are still so hooked and dependable to cinema and TV closing off certain works just because they no longer run so well there then they're utterly shortsighted. They should embrace the net and the new way of distributing these works. Of course, in that they should realize that they shouldn't impede the natural way of distributing those on that internet (sharing). There are other ways they can fund their projects and earn money (just like with Free Software businesses).

I do actually.. Enterprise didn't seem as bad to me. I also realize it is not the same, but I still think that enough of the elements that make trek what it is is one way or another preserved even in the newest offerings. These are the elements that I just hardly can find anywhere else in other movies and I believe these elements are lacking. I mean, what flies today are mostly movies full of killing, blood, destruction, pessimism, war and all kinds of dirty stuff you can imagine. Even comedies are getting subtly infiltrated by this theme, but even when they're not, they're just comedies.. They don't necessarily make you think freely, expand your horizons, as Star Trek does.
Frankly I just believe world needs a positive vision that Star Trek offers, and I believe it still does. They may have wrapped it differently today to appeal more, but there is no doubt that main themes still revolve around basic core elements that are free thinking, exploration, ethical values and optimism. This is evident even in Enterprise to a point much larger than in any other series and movies I know of. This is why I'm still in love with trek (besides being a "techno-geek" if you will).

Hm, well that much should principally be allowed if it can be done without disturbing the viewing for others who just wanna watch. I just don't see however people holding their cameras in the air or on stands of some kind shooting a movie while it's playing in a cinema. Even if it is a super quality camera on your mobile phone would you hold it in the air the whole time of the movie? I doubt that.

However yeah, it should be OK to take a short clip or something if you can do that without disturbing the view for others (that is, holding your hand across someone elses view).

It is still a much greater problem in areas where this is actually natural and done all the time, in your very computers when you put a DVD in, or over the internet.