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A Non-traditional Open and Cooperative Business Proposition

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I don't mind it, just know

I don't mind it, just know that I don't have time for it now. I must finish my studies this year or soon after it or things will get really expensive for me. I'm not sure what training is worth if only part of the team is training.

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Dylunio, the system you

Dylunio, the system you describe generally sounds good, but I see the need to discuss it a bit further to work out the details. Shall I open a new thread about it here or in a private forum?

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Yes, I think it's a good idea. Which's the best?

The idea presented in that private topic is just one of the potential projects that we could work on as part of our business. The concept is actually quite simple in itself. We do research, development and implementation:

1.) Research: We try to find out about the needs of the market and community that haven't been satisfied yet or things that people would want to use and even pay for on the web. We also try to find ways in which this will promote Free Culture.

2.) Development: Once we have some insights from our research we start developing ideas and concepts for new projects and ways of implementing them. This step may also include the development of basic necessary materials and codes.

3.) Implementation: We implement the developed idea as a final web site/service, its first version, excercise the ideas and plans we developed previously.

Now at this point we have a new web service. The implicit fourth step is continuation, continued development, improvements etc. The more services we have, depending on their success, the more community contributors we'd have to have and even at some point employees who would have the responsibility to keep certain aspects of the service running. This is especially important once we as a company developm so many services that us alone couldn't all keep them. Then we need special employees or alternatively new members to the cooperative (with stake in its governing).

It is a concept of trial and error[/b} as well where [b]research, development and implementation steps are constantly repeated. We'd try to succeed at every repeat (which is something on which the overall success of the company will depend), but a few failures, if scrapped in time (as Taco said earlier) shouldn't discourage the process from repeating again. We'd simply learn and move on.

Basically this kind of company would be a web services and publishing company. It sells advertising services and additional services that we ourselves develop. It doesn't sell to clients who want websites developed for them, but clients who want to use *our websites* for some other purpose.

This is also an extension of the Libervis Network model, but significantly boosted by our combined skills and emphasis on potential profitability. So far Libervis Networks sells only advertising and I pay the bills with it, nothing more. Smiling

Oh, but the name of the company doesn't have to be Libervis Network at all. Let "Libervis Network" simply be a subset or if we'd so agree, the public trade mark...

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Yes, this is another thing also: we could put the name of our organization (MediaMind, TechLiber, the name we eventually choose) in the site, and then to show the web developed for future clients Smiling

Yes, that would be great.

Despite that we may not be developing websites for other clients on their demand, some training would probably be useful just to see how we function working together. And an additional advertisement in form of the logo of our company on a finished ABPES site is a nice bonus. Smiling

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Well, I think I may try to ask them about this possibility. Should I?

If others agree, I have no problem with that. But I think we have alot to discuss and do before we can officialy step in as a company.

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Could you tell us a bit more

Could you tell us a bit more about ABPES?

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libervisco wrote: Dylunio,
"libervisco" wrote:

Dylunio, the system you describe generally sounds good, but I see the need to discuss it a bit further to work out the details. Shall I open a new thread about it here or in a private forum?

I don't see why I shouldn't be open for all to see, I don't see anything 'special' in the structuring an organisation that merits closure.

dylunio

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Yes, you're completely right

Yes, you're completely right Dylunio. I created the new thread here.

Thanks

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Taco said: Quote: I don't

Taco said:

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I don't mind it, just know that I don't have time for it now. I must finish my studies this year or soon after it or things will get really expensive for me. I'm not sure what training is worth if only part of the team is training.

Nor me. But if could get some more people (2 or 3 three for instance) involved we could be able to split tasks that are easier for each one to make, so the few time we have will also contribute to the overall work.

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If others agree, I have no problem with that. But I think we have alot to discuss and do before we can officialy step in as a company.

That's right, we have to discuss much more before getting the final organisation, I agree.

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monserrat wrote: Dylunio
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Dylunio wrote:

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If others agree, I have no problem with that. But I think we have alot to discuss and do before we can officialy step in as a company.

That's right, we have to discuss much more before getting the final organisation, I agree.

I think it was libervisco not I who said that Eye

But I do agree with it fully;

dylunio

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Social Economy and Solidary Economy

Dylunio warned:

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I think it was libervisco not I who said that Eye-wink

Sorry! :-)

Here some links that describe what Social Economy and Solidary Economy are:

- http://p2pfoundation.net/index.php/Social_Economy
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_economy
- http://www.ces.uc.pt/emancipa/research/en/ft/difusao.html

Though a bit long the last one is very clear to explain Solidary Economy, and how most co-ops work.

Monserrat.

PS: where is the list of smiles, because I'd like to use them, not only :-) or :-(

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Here's a list of smiley

Here's a list of smiley codes: http://www.libervis.com/filter/tips/1#filter-smileys-0

I'll add a block below later linking to it so that it's easier to find them, and more smileys too. Eye

Gonna be reading those texts you linked.

Thanks.

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Green Light from ABPES

I've just received a green light from ABPES. :-) :-) :-)

They like very much the idea of helping us to constitute an international cooperative organisation, as they promote it widely. André Ricardo is the president of ABPES, and will ask us formally to do their web site.

Where are the old XOOPS range of smiles that are missing here? I'd put a lot of them! :-) :-) :-)

Smiling Eye Laughing out loud Evil Sticking out tongue Shocked Puzzled Cool Jawdropping! Barf! Laughing out loud

Now we may think of our business plan in practical terms. Let'do it! :-D

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