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"Americanos", is your president really that stupid?!? :D

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Hello!

So, let's get a cup of tea and talk about, what it's called.. o yeah, bushism, right! Laughing

So, here are some links related to the Bush and it's stupidity:

Too Stupid To Be President Laughing

The Ribald Reign Of King George The Second Laughing Laughing

and this crappy It's George Bush Stupid page Laughing Laughing Laughing

And what really got me convienced was when i heard that he actually et the corn without firstly cooking it.. well, it's probably just his way of running a campaign, being stupid.

Now, i hope i am not hurting any bush-supporter's feelings with this since it's not my intention. It's just about pure maybe "black comedy" fun with your dear president, americanos, here in our libervis open lounge. Wink

Now, what do you think about all that?

Daniel :-D

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Yes... he's really *that* stupid. Go Kerry!

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Laughing Well, if i were American, i'll probably vote for Kerry too as i've already seen how much damage Bush has caused in the world. It affects us all, not only Iraqui people or Americans.. Oil prices have raised over every limit and that's why gas is more expensive everywhere including my country. And what caused those prices, the war on Iraq started by Bush.

So, amercian people, this elections have some importence for all of us, not only you. Vote for the the right guy (if there is one) Eye

Thank you
Daniel

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I live in the US but I am a british citizen so I can't vote in American elections. Most of the people I know who voted for Bush did so with a lot of reservations...it wasn't that they liked him, they just didn't see Kerry as any better choice. The Bush campaign did a did job of smearing his, record and his character, and portraying him as indecisive and ineffective. Kerry failed to define key issues that set him apart from Bush. The fact that Kerry supported the war in Iraq before it began gave him zero credibility for coming out against it in the campaign.

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I voted for Bush but honestly I wish I had voted for Peroutka or even Badnairik. Bush has slowly drifted left and I am afraid that the GOP as a whole may be getting too centrist for my tastes. I try to leave politics alone for the most part because I come down in a strange place with very strong moral-driven views on certain issues and more progressive on certain other issues.

Honestly I dislike it when people insult our President over here because he is in a position that deserves some respect. Not worship or blind allegiance, but at least respect. I didn't personally bash Clinton even though I didn't like much of his politics and would have treated him with the respect he deserved if I had ever met him. Honestly, is it really necessary to insult and deride someone you disagree with or think is playing with less than a full deck? Everyone does dumb things, some people more than others, but nobody should be insulted and put down as consistently as Bush has been, that's just plain mean...

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Dear James,

Who is Peroutka and Badnairik?And what is GOP? An american party?

I'm a bit different: I don't believe in God, I'm not religious, and I'm ultematelly in the left side of political positions. But most of my friends believe in God and are religious. Never mind! "Every one with his or her every one (feature)"

Can you tell us one thing?

Why did you vote on Bush? The main reasons.

See you,

Rijik.

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Re: "Americanos", is your president really that stupid?!? :D

Eh.. interesting..

You speak well James when you say about insulting.. Hm.. maaybee i did crossed that line here even though my intention was more of a "joke" than "insulting" Bush or his supporters..

However, in today's society it would seem like *respect* is believed to be something that has to be earned in some way. Now, being a president, Bush did earned at least a formal respect and that should be well.. respected. But some of his actions may make some people see him smaller in their eyes. Some even go about publicly "insulting" him because of that.. and here, i bought it to joke..:|

Thanks
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Peroutka was the Presidential candidate put forward by the Constitution Party [ http://www.constitutionparty.com/ ], they're a conservative, distincively Christian political party that desires a return to the fundamental aspects of our Constitutional Republic. They want to repeal a lot of our amendments that extended the power of the federal government. There are a lot of nuances to their platform and some I agree with and some I don't but they are a very interesting party.

Badnairik was the candidate put out by the Libertarian Party [ http://www.lp.org/ ], their basic stance is "Freedom and Personal Responsibility" they are government minimalists and have probably the most consistent platform from a secular point of view, I have to disagree with their stance on homosexual marriage and abortion rights but I agree with a lot of what they stand for.

To answer your other question. I voted for Bush because his positions line up with mine on moral issues such as mariage and abortion rights and because his tax policies are at least a step in the right direction although not quite where they need to be. I do disagree STRONGLY with his support of the PATRIOT act. I do like that he has no problem ignoring the UN, which with its latest Oil for Food scandal is looking rather suspect to me....I am however not so hot on the overall "War on Terror" although I supported the actions in Afghanistan but have many reservations about our engagement and continued involvement in Iraq given the evidence at hand. My vote was more a vote against Kerry than a strong affirmation of Bush. Kerry failed to define himself and I felt I had a better idea of where Bush stands and even though I don't agree with everything I can see where I do agree and at least recognize where I don't.

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Re: "Americanos", is your president really that stupid?!? :D

I tend to lean more on the libertarian views, even though i also don't agree with some things like homosexual marriage and i think they're for some drugs legalisation as well..

It would seem like all we basically have today are some kinds of extremes, ones are extremely conservative, others are extremely liberal.. where is the balance? None of the extremes are good.

So, i would really have a tough time deciding to who to give my vote, but i'll end up voting for the ones that are the most closed to my views or not voting at all.

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Re: "Americanos", is your president really that stupid?!? :D

Yes the Libertarians want to de-criminalize all drugs and leave it up to individuals to decide what to do. I like this idea because as long as a we treat those under the influence of drugs JUST like we treat drunk drivers then I see no reason for the government to step in a say that a person can't smoke marijuana. Would I? No. Would I say it was wrong for someone else to? Yeah, probably, again a moral judgement. But should the government even care? They don't about alchohol and that it ends up killing many innocent people every year!

The problem with our parties is a lack of good distinctions and definitions. The Democrats are being driven by socialists in the upper eschelons of the party and the conservatives are being run by people who want to exapand our already huge government. Oh for the days of the Raegan republican party where we believed in smaller more constrained government and lower taxes to match. But now both parties spend with reckless abandon, just on different things and neither really cares about much of anythign really.

Unless the Republicans pick a good candidate for 2008 my vote may very well go for the Libertarians or the Constitution party. I don't hold much hope for us ever overturning Roe-v-Wade or keeping homosexuals from marrying in the long term but at least maybe I could support someone who would get the government in to some semblance of balance and constraint.

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I tend to lean more on the libertarian views, even though i also don't agree with some things like homosexual marriage and i think they're for some drugs legalisation as well..

What is wrong with homosexual marriage? I am not homosexual, but I strongly agree with homosexual marriage being legal over here. Marriage for church and marriage for the state are not the same thing. Marriage for the state is a contract, and contracts should not be forbidden for one sex and allowed for the other. Now if a church does not want to do the religious part of marriage for homosexuals because the holy book forbids it, that's their business. I would say that religion is a discriminating one, but you can't change a holy book, and to outlaw a religion for that reason is overkill.

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It would seem like all we basically have today are some kinds of extremes, ones are extremely conservative, others are extremely liberal.. where is the balance? None of the extremes are good.

Interesting to hear YOU say that...

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