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Albeit not yet "officially" announced the long in the works new 2008 revision of Libervis.com is by all means here! I wish to dedicate this thread to your reactions, comments on the new look, the new content architecture, new features etc. Please don't hesitate to make any suggestions, observations and critiques! I am all ears. My ears are at this point bigger than Ferengis, so bring it on! Laughing

I for one love the dark look, very futuristic and "technological". I am also happy about havign easily accessible smileys and other buttons for formating, and I love the centered logo of a sun rising and shining with a rainbow of colors. It represents becoming free and embracing diversity, the fact that we are all unique individuals and can thrive on accepting that and cooperating to create something great.

The only reservation that I had was about the categories because I was afraid putting all main site's content into only four categories is a little limiting. I'm no fan of pigeonholing and I realize that things don't always fit so nicely into categories. On the other hand, they are a useful way of organizing thoughts and ideas, as long as we don't get too hung up on them. Our four categories might be a strength on the other hand, emphasizing four major angles from which to look at things. I like to think of these categories as "angles" rather than categories in a classic sense. And you can put articles and links into multiple of them at the same time, as well as tag them, which adds quite a bit of flexibility overall.

Please share your opinions.

Thank you! Pink whoohoo

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Dude! What a transformation,

Dude!

What a transformation, excellent work, like the yellow on hover over orange links, colors work well, as they do in general.
I'll give the light scheme a go at some stage too.

Suggestion box after first impressions:
- Add a home page link to the top left libervis graphic
- change the "Greetings username ..." to "Logged in as username ..."
- fill in the descriptions for the wysiwyg buttons which I presume go in the parantheses on the hover pop-up
- could the smileys go underneath the comment typing area instead of above?
- maybe make "Post new comment" bgger and bolder, like the "Who's online" below

Top notch though.
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Edit: We've got Articles, Forum Topics, and References subsections on the front page of each of the four main sections, could these go in three columns?
My screen is wide enough anyway, and that would give an instant view to visitors of what's on the page without scrolling, I'm thinking if one thing doesn't catch their eye something else might.

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Hey D, thanks for the

Hey D, thanks for the comment. Smiling

There are some good suggestions there. I already implemented some.

democrates wrote:

- Add a home page link to the top left libervis graphic

That graphic is actually a background image which I'm not sure can be linked. I'll see if I can do some sort of a blank overlay space over it and make that link so that it appears like the actual graphic is linking home. The centered sun logo is already linking to the homepage though that's probably not obvious. There was a home link next to the "about | wiki | legacy" links, but I removed it thinking the centered logo link will do because I wanted the site to be as usable as possible even on the 640x resolution (used by some smartphones) and more links there end up crossing the main menu links). Hmm, adding the home link on the opposite side of the menu could work...

democrates wrote:

- change the "Greetings username ..." to "Logged in as username ..."

democrates wrote:

- could the smileys go underneath the comment typing area instead of above?

democrates wrote:

- maybe make "Post new comment" bgger and bolder, like the "Who's online" below

All done. However I'm not sure how many others will prefer the smileys below (it's usually above or on the side in modern forum software), but I will keep it below for now until someone complains. I'm fine with it either way. Smiling One caveat though is that it is now also below the input format thing which I tried to move before, but couldn't quite get it. Let me know if this is good.

Also, I actually reduced the text size of both "Post new comment" and "Who's online", but made them equal. Reason is to make it slightly smaller than the title of the content. It is after all just a title of blocks so it seemed a little bit too big.

democrates wrote:

- fill in the descriptions for the wysiwyg buttons which I presume go in the parantheses on the hover pop-up

I took a look at the code generating those and it appears the things in parenthesis are "accesskeys" which might be like shortcuts for browsers that support this. I really am not sure. I can modify the module to display a more descriptive description though, but I'm not sure what to say.. maybe I could at least just clarify those which might not be clear enough. What do you think?

democrates wrote:

We've got Articles, Forum Topics, and References subsections on the front page of each of the four main sections, could these go in three columns?
My screen is wide enough anyway, and that would give an instant view to visitors of what's on the page without scrolling, I'm thinking if one thing doesn't catch their eye something else might.

Great idea. Smiling That would basically be like on homepage except with visible teasers and displaying that category specific content only. I'm gonna try that and then we can see how that goes. I too have a pretty good resolution (1280x1024), though I was aiming to make the site as compatible with even 640x480 resolution as it could be, at least for smartphone usability. It might work well enough though.

Thanks again!

Danijel

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I like it.

My favorite part is the dark theme, which makes Libervis much easier to read at night. I sometimes confuse it with Nuxified, but I'll get used to the differences (Nuxified is black/blue, Libervis is black/orange).

The wideness is good too. It makes the page feel more focused.

You can link the top-left image by wrapping the element that it is the background of in an anchor. If you do this, you can remove the anchor for the centered image.

It would be nice to have the post being replied to displayed on the edit post page.

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Thanks
a thing wrote:

My favorite part is the dark theme, which makes Libervis much easier to read at night. I sometimes confuse it with Nuxified, but I'll get used to the differences (Nuxified is black/blue, Libervis is black/orange).

Oh you're still using the old nuxified_dark theme. I just took a look at that and.. well it clearly needs an update. After moving Nuxified.org to the new server (same as Libervis) I'll do a few design edits (nothing drastic like here) and then I should also update the old dark theme.

Anyway, I'm glad you like it. Smiling

a thing wrote:

You can link the top-left image by wrapping the element that it is the background of in an anchor. If you do this, you can remove the anchor for the centered image.

Good idea. I just looked though and it appears I remembered incorrectly (I was doing that part a while ago). It's not the background image, but the whole element is z-indexed below the element holding the center logo. This is how I managed to make the centered logo display centered while still having the left logo in parallel and all working nicely. But, the z-indexing thing actually came in handy here. I noticed I unwittingly had the whole header link to the homepage on main category pages because the centered logo element spans the whole of it apparently, so I made it that way across the whole site.

Yet those two ad links and the search box aren't being interfered with because they are apparently z-indexed above the center logo element. It works out alright. Smiling

a thing wrote:

It would be nice to have the post being replied to displayed on the edit post page.

Hmm, true, but I think the comment doesn't store the "replied to" info with itself which makes it virtually impossible to render that post above it, but I'll have to check. Drupal is pretty flexible, but has it's limitations due to a peculiar way of working (which is, ironically, a big part of the reason why it's so flexible). Anyway, I'll check.

Thanks!

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I am plotting a special

I am plotting a special strategy for this site's launch and wont be doing an official announcement of the new site until this is done. Basically I'm saving it all for that big moment when we will hit the internet with a bang.

I am exploring for the material to refer to in the announcement and coming up with a concept for the video I will be making which will go with it and show up on a number of the most popular internet video sites at the same time. The story will also be submitted to a number of news sites over the internet.

The plot might involve something unique and viral. Meanwhile, I see no issue with the way things are. Whether the actual big revival happens today or in a week doesn't seem to make much of a difference compared to months of stagnation that we had. I will be occasionally opening new forum topics to keep the activity at least above what we had prior to making this new design live.

I'll also probably apply some of the remaining suggestions you had above.

So stay tuned all. If I manage to do this right, it's gonna be quite a ride (if we start getting more members more rapidly all getting involved in our mission to create a community around the exploration of inter-effects of technology and our liberty.

Cheers

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I've just implemented a

I've just implemented a three-column layout for the main category sections as suggested by democrates. Feel free to let me know if you like that better or the way it was.

Thanks

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I like this new way better.

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Rather like the new theme -

Rather like the new theme - although it was rather a shock when I first saw it. I didn't expect to like the dark theme, but it indeed seems easier to read and has a rather slick look Smiling

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Good to hear. Yeah, it's

Good to hear. Yeah, it's quite a change. It took a while, but made the biggest difference. It is already taking a while to blow some life into it (the actual launch), but I think it'll pay off as well. Taking the time sometimes has its benefits. Smiling

Cheers

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Nice work libervisco. It

Nice work libervisco. It looks good Smiling

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