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Don't negotiate with Microsoft on Port 25..

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..until they show us that we can trust them!

That is the message of an article dcparris wrote on LXer.com: FOSS Community Should Not Negotiate With Microsoft On Port 25

And I completely agree. Microsoft wants to talk to the FLOSS community, learn more about it, possibly use the knowledge to its advantage while showing itself in a good light for their attempt at friendly communication.

But at the same time they do things like discouraging computer vendors from selling PC's without an operating system (because windows is on most of them), brainwashing people with the "get the facts" campaign, continuing with an excercise of economic bullying and many other things.

In my opinion just the fact that they make software proprietary makes them guilty enough. The only reason I'd communicate with them over port 25 was to convince them about the reasons why is this wrong, but that is as pointless as silly does it sound.

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Re: Don't negotiate with Microsoft on Port 25..

I must say the name "port 25" is very apt. 90% of what goes trough that port is spam. If it appears to come from microsoft, 100% of it is malware ("plz install this importan securitee pats. greetz BiLl gAtEz") Laughing

But seriously, why should we pay any attention to microsoft? It's a dinosaur, and this species won't be missed. Microsoft has never played fair, and there's no reason to believe it ever will, even if it would stop that "get the lies" nonsense for a while.

Ignore them.

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Re: Don't negotiate with Microsoft on Port 25..
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tbuitenh wrote:
I must say the name "port 25" is very apt. 90% of what goes trough that port is spam. If it appears to come from microsoft, 100% of it is malware ("plz install this importan securitee pats. greetz BiLl gAtEz") Laughing

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tbuitenh wrote:
Ignore them.

I certainly will, though only to an extent of not supporting the kind of communication that they want to get on Port25. Watching what is happening to them is a good thing though, for the sake of knowing where to push the FLOSS community to and how to respond to their threats.

EDIT: Actually we need to force them into changing or going away. Our strategy is mostly defensive, that may be true, but considering that their whole business model seems to be based on being a threat to us (because just being in the market is not enough for them, they want to dominate), the only alternative for us is to force them down, down and down or (if miracles like that are possible) force them to change, revolutionize themselves and their model (which again I don't think will happen until we push them waaay down forcing them to fight for survival, not domination).

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