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This thread can be seen as a continuation or a second part of the thread about peak oil.

Be it a conspiracy or not, the most logical solution to the peak oil problem are alternative source of energy.

However, the campaigners of peak oil usually tend to say that no alternative source is capable enough to replace oil, that it is simply impossible at this point. They basically say we're doomed, that peok oil will happen in a few years while alternative sources will need at least a decade or more to be capable.

Be it true or not, here we may discuss the viability of free energy today and the reasons why it didn't get through in the past..

You can read something about free energy here: http://www.free-energy.cc/

Ever heard about stories involving someone who developed a new cheap source of energy and mysteriously dissappeared? (such as the innovator of water-powered car engine). There is alot of such stories among the free energy community. AFAIK, it is even recommended to keep your findings for yourself - not to risk your life, for the sake of higher interests..

What do you think about that?

The truth is that there are various ways of having free energy enabling you to have at least some devices free of mainstream energy source.

In the future, if enough interested people, we may have a special forum or subforum for free energy as it is indeed an important issue for the free world and free culture. (it is about ability to freely innovate new energy technologies without fear of being crushed by the almightly black oil industry).

Thank you

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Re: Free energy - to free us all

This might be interesting: http://www.iter.org/

Note: nuclear fusion is not the same thing as thing as nuclear fission.

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Hey.. i just skimmed through that site and it reminds me of some very familiar terms such as "fusion reactors", "deuterium", "alpha particles" and "neutron emmissions"...

Yes, you guessed, star trek!

It seems that some of those "trekkie" "SF" things related to energy could be a reality fairly soon. (2015 isn't THAT far).

Hopefully, the project isn't under control of the concentrated powers (US and oil industry) and won't be hindered by the same.

Thanks for the link Taco.

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Libervisco wrote:
Hopefully, the project isn't under control of the concentrated powers (US and oil industry) and won't be hindered by the same.

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from iter.org:
It is an international project involving The People's Republic of China, the European Union (represented by Euratom), Japan, the Republic of Korea, the Russian Federation, and the United States of America, under the auspices of the IAEA.

Under control, no; hindered, possible, but more hindered by international politics, the conflict about where they're going to build it has been going on for years now :-( .

Star Trek gets its ideas from actual science, but extends them to what is "most likely impossible" according to scientists. It's called science fiction for a reason.
I think true science is much cooler than star trek because it's real. Or maybe I just don't like star trek so much because I like star wars... it seems it's a vi/emacs type of thing Laughing .

BTW, isn't "Tokamak" a great word to say? :-P

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Under control, no; hindered, possible, but more hindered by international politics, the conflict about where they're going to build it has been going on for years now .

Ahh.. typical..

I've read that, but i somehow overlooked that it also says "United States of America".
It's best that it's built on some kind of neutral ground owned by a democratic consotium or organization consisted of ALL countries that anyhow participated in the development, building or anything else about the project.

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Star Trek gets its ideas from actual science, but extends them to what is "most likely impossible" according to scientists. It's called science fiction for a reason.

Actually... you could say that star trek gets its ideas from science, but extends it to what is "most likely *possible*" - if you look at it from another angle. Possibility is not a reality, it is just a "possibility" and i think you'll agree when i say that we live in the world that has proven that "possibilities" should be looked at with much more opened mind than we usually tend to. I myself don't actually believe in impossible - everything is possible until it is absolutely proved oppositely.

It is science fiction, of course, but not because it tells fairy tales, but because it invisionates possibilities in the future based on reality of the present in science.

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Or maybe I just don't like star trek so much because I like star wars... it seems it's a vi/emacs type of thing .

Laughing I'd say it's an vi/emacs thing. ;-) Star wars is cool too.. i love both. However i like star trek more because it is more consistent, it has an everlasting serial and 10 awesome movies and a virtual universe like no other. It is a great source of inspiration and it is by far the one thing on TV i like, no i *love*, to watch the most - takes me higher, opens my mind, makes me invision and often inspires my advocate/activist spirit.

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BTW, isn't "Tokamak" a great word to say?

It is. :-)

But isn't "Quapla" a great word to say? ;-) (although Klingons aren't my favourite - humans of that century are).

Okay.. i think this went a bit offtopic.. back to the free energy topic... What about solar panels? Anyone powers their home with it? What kind of future you see for it? (Will prices drop?) :-)

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Welcome aboard Michale.

Merci beaucoup!
Thank you very much!
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