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It is often useful to analyse things by simply asking a lot of the right (and some wrong) questions. A question is a powerful method to use in search for answers! Wow! That was.. deep. Laughing out loud Eye

So.. seriously... as far as I remember we never really done a Libervis FAQ, at least not the one that would apply to the current and upcoming state of things, so here is one. I post it in forums so you can comment if you believe something wasn't clear enough or you think some questions shouldn't be in or that some additional questions should be answered. Final result is to be published as part of the new Libervis.com.

What is Libervis?

Libervis is a network of internet projects which begins and ends with Libervis.com. It's purpose is to cooperatively develop, publish and maintain internet projects which in some way advance the realization of a world in which technology is used and developed in a socially, ethically and ecologically responsible way. At its core is the ideal of individual freedom for all human beings equally. Without that, all else is moot. Hence the name "Libervis", which in latin means "most freely".

What is "Libervis Network" (and why)?

Since all of our ideas are (more or less) developed on Libervis.com, putting all of the resulting projects under the single umbrella of "Libervis Network" (as named per Libervis.com) allows us to identify each of our projects to the public as ones which were started with ideals that "Libervis" brand stands for. It also contains such practical benefits as immediate inter linking among member sites allowing them to be indexed by search engines and promoted much more efficiently (a controlled network effect).

Libervis Network are all projects which were developed on Libervis.com and are either fully or partially managed and supported by Libervis.com's owner or staff. Current members sites are Nuxified.org, MobiLiberty.com, planet.libervis.net and upcoming projects like bumpatune.com, nuxified.com and doubleplushuman.com.

What is the difference between Libervis and other networks?

Mainly, the difference appears to be the approach to developing new projects. Whereas most other such networks, like for example the iFroggy Network, have their projects developed privately by a single or few people who own it Libervis projects are developed as a result of an open discourse on Libervis.com, with the community that frequents there. In addition, unlike other networks, ours is led with a certain guiding vision of the world in mind making all or most Libervis projects ones which in some way contribute to the fulfilment of that vision. We also have a rare kind of an advertising policy which bans such things which are considered as wrong by the core Libervis community.

What is a Libervis Community?

It is a group of people which frequently participate in discussions on Libervis.com, forming community bonds between them. It does not necessarily include everyone who frequent other projects part of Libervis Network. Therefore Nuxified.org community is not the same as Libervis community, unless "Libervis" is applied as an adjective so as to mean that Nuxified community is one of Libervis communities. In that sense, Libervis Community may more precisely be defined as "Libervis.com community".

So there are two meanings. It may either refer to Libervis.com community or to a community surrounding a project that is a part of Libervis network. Whichever the case, it is important to remember that just because it is treated as part of a single network, one Libervis project can have a whole different and distinct community from another. The default "Libervis community" being referred to is therefore likely to be the one on Libervis.com.

What is Libervis.com and its purpose?

It is the central plexus of Libervis Network, a place where minds converge and ideas are born. Libervis.com is the key to all that differentiates Libervis from common internet publishing entities. This is where deep, free flowing and open minded discussions happen about the state of our world, about freedom and ethics, about technology and its effect on humanity and ultimately about the question of "what can we do about it", one which results in ideas and consequently projects that become future members of the Libervis Network.

As such it may as well be the most beautiful place on the web. Smiling

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OK, some of the above Q&A's might seem redundant. I really put emphasis on clearly defining every aspect of what makes Libervis what it is. Note that the answers are up to date to the conclusions from this discussion even though this site hasn't yet been updated to fit that conclusion exactly. Forums will have to be reordered, logo changed, slogan refined, about page and mission statement rewritten etc. This is because as these currently stand they don't efficiently convey a message of what Libervis.com already is.

As I said earlier on IRC, the reason why anything on this site is changing is mostly that "it's body doesn't reflect its spirit". Our presentation is a bit off. (As for logo changes, for those who may believe that to be unnecessary, I think it is a useful facelift to do while we're at it - considering that once we get this baby back on track we will be playing with marketing much more.. which we are, after all, much better equipped to do now that the context of what and why is clearer. Marketing to whom? To anyone who shares our vision and may want to contribute to our convergence. Marketing why? To make Libervis as a brand that stands for that vision, well known and influential towards others - encouraging them to ally with us in pursuing the same ideals.

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Suggested version for

Suggested version for consideration in case there's anything of interest. Ask 10 people and you'll get 10 faqs!

What does the word "Libervis" mean?
Libervis is a latin word meaning "most freely".

What is the objective of Libervis?
It's objective is a world in which technology is developed and used in a socially, ethically and ecologically responsible way.

What is the basis for this objective?
The objective results from a belief that all human beings deserve a mimimum standard of individual freedom, and that any surplus be distributed equitably over time. This is both an end in itself, and a necessary precursor to optimal peace and prosperity.

Is equal freedom not the best idea?
Not if you consider freedom in the widest sense, the freedom to reach ones potential. This context encapsulates health, wealth, education etc. While equality of opportunity sets a minimum standard, we also believe in some extra reward in correlation with good results from effort.

Why not go into politics if you want to change the world?
Libervis focusses on technology as that is where its members are best empowered to make a contribution. That said, never say never.

How is Libervis.com working to achieve its's objective?
Libervis.com acts as an incubator, it cooperatively develops, publishes and maintains internet projects which variously advance the realization of our objective. In doing so it is the hub of a network of internet projects which together form the "libervis Network".

What makes up the "Libervis Network"?
Libervis Network are all projects which were developed on Libervis.com and are either fully or partially managed and supported by Libervis.com's owner or staff. Current members sites are Nuxified.org, MobiLiberty.com, planet.libervis.net and upcoming projects like bumpatune.com, nuxified.com and doubleplushuman.com.

Most of our ideas are developed on Libervis.com, putting all of the resulting projects under the single umbrella of "Libervis Network" (as named per Libervis.com) allows us to identify each of our projects to the public as ones which were started with ideals that "Libervis" brand stands for. It also contains such practical benefits as immediate inter linking among member sites allowing them to be indexed by search engines and promoted much more efficiently (a controlled network effect).

What differentiates Libervis from other networks?
Most other such networks, like for example the iFroggy Network, have their projects developed privately by a single or few people who own it.

Libervis projects are developed as a result of an open discourse on Libervis.com. Therefore, unlike other networks, our projects start out in the incubator being forged in the fires of open discourse and tested against our guiding objective. This is where deep, free flowing and open minded discussions happen about the state of our world, about freedom and ethics, about technology and its effect on humanity and ultimately about the question of "what can we do about it". This process results in ideas and consequently project strategies which in their own ways can contribute directly or indirectly to the fulfilment of that vision, finally this propagates new member projects of the Libervis Network.

Another advantage of this central think-tank facility is that we also have a standard advertising policy accross the network of projects which bans such things which are considered as wrong by the core Libervis community.

What is a Libervis Community?
It is a group of people which frequently participate in discussions on Libervis.com, forming community bonds between them. It does not necessarily include everyone who frequent other projects part of Libervis Network. Therefore Nuxified.org community is not the same as Libervis community, unless "Libervis" is applied as an adjective so as to mean that Nuxified community is one of Libervis communities. In that sense, Libervis Community may more precisely be defined as "Libervis.com community".

So there are two meanings. It may either refer to Libervis.com community or to a community surrounding a project that is a part of Libervis network. Whichever the case, it is important to remember that just because it is treated as part of a single network, one Libervis project can have a whole different and distinct community from another. The default "Libervis community" being referred to is therefore likely to be the one on Libervis.com.

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I like this.

I have not had time read the current discussion on the future of Libervis, but I do like what I see in these FAQs. One question (the one on politics) I think could use some improvement though:

Why not go into politics if you want to change the world?
Libervis focuses on technology as that is where its members are best empowered to make a contribution (since that is how they communicate) and Libervis Network started in June 2004 as just Libervis.com, a site then about freedomware. That does not mean though that politics is forbidden; merely that it is not the focus (although it could be the focus of a future project).

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Excellent, that's definitely

Excellent, that's definitely an improved version. More questions, shorter answers and some additional clarifications. I like it.

Just a few thoughts though:

democrates wrote:

The objective results from a belief that all human beings deserve a mimimum standard of individual freedom, and that any surplus be distributed equitably over time. This is both an end in itself, and a necessary precursor to optimal peace and prosperity.

At the core, this is what it is, but the "ecologically responsible use" also has a basis in the belief that inefficient and environmentally damaging use of resources is not good for our planet in the long run, and consequently potentially damaging to the well being of most humans as well, if we take the human centric approach. And it is harder to have freedom when there are not enough healthy resources to meet the minimum standard of living.

Now I'm not sure if it is necessary to include this in the answer. If yes it should be short and sweet. What also relates "environmentalism" with individual freedom is what Kevin Dean calls "independamentalism" which is not quite "environmentalism" - it is caring for your own independence more than for the environment - which interestingly often leads to an overlap with environmentalism because being independent includes being independent of the electricity grid, from oil companies, from software companies and makers of any products you buy etc. And more independence apparently seems to lead to greater efficiency (as everyone looks to minimize their expenses)

That said, ecological issues haven't been a big topic on this site and I think it's fine if we just take it gradually. It is bound to pop up in various discussions and may even have some topics opened about it, so as long as it is known to potential new community members that such topics are fine too, we should be good.

democrates wrote:

Is equal freedom not the best idea?
Not if you consider freedom in the widest sense, the freedom to reach ones potential. This context encapsulates health, wealth, education etc. While equality of opportunity sets a minimum standard, we also believe in some extra reward in correlation with good results from effort.

That's an interesting point. If everyone was to be pushed to do the same level of achievements we would indeed have total equality, but then "achievement" would be irrelevant because everyone "achieves" to the same level, no more and no less. So speaking of freedom it is indeed about giving equal basic opportunities to everyone and making sure that what they do with it from then on doesn't result in lessening the freedom of another. In short, "what floats your boat, as long as it doesn't sink mine" doesn't necessarily mean one boat can't be bigger than another. Eye Maybe we should include an analogy like that in the FAQ?

So yeah, I tend to agree here, if I interpreted it right.

a_thing wrote:

Why not go into politics if you want to change the world?
Libervis focuses on technology as that is where its members are best empowered to make a contribution (since that is how they communicate) and Libervis Network started in June 2004 as just Libervis.com, a site then about freedomware. That does not mean though that politics is forbidden; merely that it is not the focus (although it could be the focus of a future project).

I guess it depends how is "politics" defined here. From wikipedia it is a process of making decisions on behalf of a group. So that includes more than the events on the political scene of our countries. So is discussing the decision making process a discussion about politics?

That said, I think what was meant is whether Libervis will be involved in a direct political campaign (as far as forming a party), in which case the answer that we focus on technology, but never know nor would discourage someone in our community getting politically involved this way is a good answer.

I think though, what the real focus of Libervis would be is not so much either one of the areas that may be involved as much as the very process of making a fruitful discussion and coming up with ideas. So if this has to involve politics it is fine. The outcome, of course, is largely going to be technological though (like a web site), but we would also often write articles too which may voice political opinion.

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On the politics question as

On the politics question as well as others I was far too terse. Things that are implicit to me when I type "over time" and "optimal" are my personal interpretations for starters, but worse, the language is so encoded the full message would be missed by 90% of visitors who care to scan the faq.

Despite those drawbacks you guys have the points nailed, so nothing else to add occurs to me at this point.

Except, how about a SAQ in the humour section, Seldom Asked Questions, like "Does Ay caramba! have a secret meaning in scientology?"

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Right, perhaps we'll find a

Right, perhaps we'll find a way to clarify that answer further, but it's fine for now..

About SAQ, sounds like a nice idea for a humour piece. It can even have some implicit subtle points about Libervis. Smiling

But I'm not sure how to answer that question. Ay caramba!? Laughing out loud I guess we should get in touch with Tom Cruise.

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libervisco wrote: But I'm
libervisco wrote:

But I'm not sure how to answer that question. Ay caramba!? I guess we should get in touch with Tom Cruise.

Yes, I bet he knows what Nancy Cartwright was thinking when she did this:
http://www.hollywood.com/news/Nancy_Bart_Simpson_Cartwright_Gives_10_Million_to_Scientology/5057516

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