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memenode's picture
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I just declined an advertisement which advertises proprietary software for GNU/Linux!

Funny thing is I don't feel very good about it, not so much about the principle behind it as much about the impression that this leaves on that potential advertiser. We still have to face the fact that majority of people out there still have no full understanding of Free Software principles, even if they know what Free Software is. They wont, not in a long time, understand my act here. My act would instead be classified as anti-capitalist, foolish and self-defeating. You know how the argument goes, I'll never develop a succesful business with this kind of rigorous censorship to what I don't believe in. :\

Yeah, that kind of pisses me off.

I wish there were no offers of advertising proprietary software, then at least I wouldn't have to go through that disgusting act of *declining* what 90% of the world sees as a perfectly legitimate opportunity.

Heh, feel that friction baby! The friction between ethics and business.

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There is still a long way to

There is still a long way to go when it comes to companies understanding freedom. Many are there for the money, and will screw all ethics to get it. But there are companies and people out there who do not let the ethics be screwed - this place is one example, others are things such as ethical financial advisors and ethical banks. So don't feel alone in trying to be ethical.

But it is sad that you have had to decline ad space, since it shows that the people don't read the advertising policy =/

Hopfully some people who read the ad policy will want some ad space soon.

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Thanks for the

Thanks for the encouragement. You're right, of course. I do believe declining these ads is the right thing to do, despite everything and I still do believe it is somehow possible to make a succesful business without sacrificing ethics. It is just going to be long and hard.

It's the friction. It's expectable to happen. We'll lose some, but we'll hopefully gain some.. possibly exactly because of our ethical stance. Smiling

Thanks

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good

/me claps.

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Why not write a short

Why not write a short article about our advertising policy, the reason it is the way it is, and incidents like this? Post it to the news sites, and maybe it will attract some advertisers of the right type.

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Well that's not a bad idea

Well that's not a bad idea to think about. But of course, such an article would have to be written in a way so that it doesn't sound like some sort of blatant self promotion and call for advertisers attention, even if the main motivator behind writing it is exactly that. Laughing out loud

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Everything I put on the web

Everything I put on the web is self promotion and attention seeking Eye .

But seriously, I think the way libervis tries to do business is interesting enough. There's nothing wrong with telling the world about what you're doing if it's something interesting!

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Yeah I suppose you're right.

Yeah I suppose you're right. Smiling

I am just not sure everyone, even within the FOSS community would understand this. We could probably get quite a bit of criticism as well.. but I guess we can try.

Btw, yet another ad was rejected from another ad broker.. about windows hosting (they actually explicitely promote windows hosting). :\

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If we get criticism, it will

If we get criticism, it will be from the "pragmatic" open source crowd. Well, bring it on!
The trick is to write in a style that doesn't look like self-promotion, and the way to do it is not to try to promote oneself but to simply write about reasons and ethics.

And of course we can counter any criticism by saying "we just want people offering inappropriate ads to stop bothering us".

Maybe a short introduction about free software should be part of the article, 'cause not everyone understands gratis windows hosting isn't free.

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