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Re: IBM to give away 5000 Patents

Sorry to correct, but it is "only" 500 patents and they don't give them away. They just pledged that they will not sue over use of these patents if you release your app as FOSS.

Which still is absolutely amazing!

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Re: IBM to give away 5000 Patents

I think IBM did something good here but I would like it even more if IBM started lobbying to persuade politicians that we don't need software patents in the first place.

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This indeed looks like an amazing "favoring" of FOSS on the IBM's part, but i agree with incinerator... the truly real thing would be if they'd come completely on our side and fight software patents alongside with us instead of just "favoring" us by promising not to use the weapon they might or do have against us.

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r_a_trip wrote:
Sorry to correct, but it is "only" 500 patents and they don't give them away. They just pledged that they will not sue over use of these patents if you release your app as FOSS.

Which still is absolutely amazing!

Oh I am sorry...

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See the positives...

I'd rather see IBM fight patents too, but I think that is a bit too optimistic. IBM is the worlds largest patent-holding tech company and they didn't get a huge arsenal of patents by not applying for them.

IBM is too deeply involved with patents to just give them up. Right now they can't either, they need them as "Weapons in a Cold War CPTT battle". (CPTT = Copyrights, Patents, Trademarks & Trade Secrets. I think I've come up with a nice acronym to kill the false umbrella term Intellectual Property Eye)

What is extremely positive though, is that IBM is willing to grant you usage rights when you are willing to use those patents in a way that benefits all and not an exclusive group. This benefits IBM too ofcourse, but that is what businesses do. Businesses look after themselves.

IBM is exceptional in this case, because they do not only look after themselves, but also all others that make use of FOSS. Quite a feat for a once Big Bad Ole Proprietary Company.

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Re: IBM to give away 500 Patents

Yes, you're right Trip..

At the same time as they are the biggest patent holder while patents are the biggest threat to free software, IBM is the first to move toward protecting FOSS from those very patents. It may be because that suits them as they are doing business with linux more and more, but it's still one thing FOSS community has won by simply making linux that good that a company like IBM would want to deal with it and of course, protect it.

So, i'd say that this is really going as a strong defense in the war against software patents.

EDIT: One thought: IBM is inviting (and expecting) others to follow their example with this. Therefore, if many strong companies start protecting FOSS from patents like this we may get the same picture in the software patents area as we have in copyright area: the proprietary companies do it their way and free software companies and community does it their way with no damaging interferences. In the copyright area this protection is achieved through the "share-alike" terms of GPL and alike licences.
In the patents area the protection might be provided by companies like IBM.
It will only be interesting to see what MS would do in such a situation, if too many companies go the IBM protective way. Will it dare to bluntly attack FOSS with patents since that would mean an attack against IBM giant and others? Hmmm.. :-D

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Re: IBM to give away 500 Patents

Just a thought I had while reading this...

What would you think if there was an international law that stated that patents have NO influence on Free (as in freedom) services and softwares ?

I think this would solve all the problems in one , clean, shot. And this would also be nice to the free speech issues, as in that example : "I'm right to write some code that may have been written in the same way elsewhere far far away, I don't have to check out the thousands of thousands of patents lying around to see if I infridge any, since I Did invent my own code and not just carefuly copied an algorithm."

What do you think about that?

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Of course WaterSoul, i would be all for it because it would completely protect the FOSS world from patents the same way as GPL and alike licences protect it. It would be the perfect version of what i described in my previous post here (about companies protecting FOSS from patents).

Then, the only mission we would have would not be about protecting ourselves, but only promoting the use and development of FOSS and abandoning patents completely, because of the freedom, efficiency and betterment of all mankind. :-)

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